Comments on: Is this the end of the social media purists? http://www.businessesgrow.com/2009/11/24/is-this-the-end-of-the-social-media-purists/ Marketing. Social Media. Humanity. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mark http://www.businessesgrow.com/2009/11/24/is-this-the-end-of-the-social-media-purists/#comment-1277 Mark Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:32:20 +0000 http://businessesgrow.com/?p=1189#comment-1277 @Jon Yes, I think this is exactly right. I've used a few examples here but I have seen a huge shift in the tone of the blogosphere as social media goes more mainstream. It's kind of like "wait, there really are economic realities we all have to acknowledge here." This is very healthy because many of those realites were never resolved in the Internet bust of the late 1990s until it was too late. Thanks so much for commenting, Jon. @Jon Yes, I think this is exactly right. I’ve used a few examples here but I have seen a huge shift in the tone of the blogosphere as social media goes more mainstream. It’s kind of like “wait, there really are economic realities we all have to acknowledge here.”

This is very healthy because many of those realites were never resolved in the Internet bust of the late 1990s until it was too late. Thanks so much for commenting, Jon.

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]]> By: Jon Buscall http://www.businessesgrow.com/2009/11/24/is-this-the-end-of-the-social-media-purists/#comment-1276 Jon Buscall Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:52:07 +0000 http://businessesgrow.com/?p=1189#comment-1276 @Mark, I think you're making a good point here. Social media strategies are maturing. In the past we've been talking to get businesses to listen in the first place. Now I think there's less evangelicism out there and more practical implementation. As the sector matures, there's a need for more focus on what social media actually delivers. And of course when it comes to business, that ultimately means money because that's what makes it all go around. @Mark,
I think you’re making a good point here. Social media strategies are maturing. In the past we’ve been talking to get businesses to listen in the first place. Now I think there’s less evangelicism out there and more practical implementation. As the sector matures, there’s a need for more focus on what social media actually delivers. And of course when it comes to business, that ultimately means money because that’s what makes it all go around.

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]]> By: Mark http://www.businessesgrow.com/2009/11/24/is-this-the-end-of-the-social-media-purists/#comment-1275 Mark Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:29:49 +0000 http://businessesgrow.com/?p=1189#comment-1275 The more I think about it, I'm not even sure what "purist" means. I'm not a purist anything as far as I know. I'm a capitalist. Free market and all that old chap. The more I think about it, I’m not even sure what “purist” means. I’m not a purist anything as far as I know. I’m a capitalist. Free market and all that old chap.

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]]> By: Steve Dodd http://www.businessesgrow.com/2009/11/24/is-this-the-end-of-the-social-media-purists/#comment-1274 Steve Dodd Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:53:12 +0000 http://businessesgrow.com/?p=1189#comment-1274 You know I'm all about ROI and business value but there will still be room for "Purists" as they tend to keep all of us "Honest" with our methods and attitudes. At certain times, both of you (Mark and Jason) have discussed "Purist" attitudes regarding topics like ghost writing, trust and authenticity. You know I’m all about ROI and business value but there will still be room for “Purists” as they tend to keep all of us “Honest” with our methods and attitudes. At certain times, both of you (Mark and Jason) have discussed “Purist” attitudes regarding topics like ghost writing, trust and authenticity.

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]]> By: Jonathan Sherman http://www.businessesgrow.com/2009/11/24/is-this-the-end-of-the-social-media-purists/#comment-1271 Jonathan Sherman Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:24:23 +0000 http://businessesgrow.com/?p=1189#comment-1271 It really is simple, the point of any business is to make money. If it can't help the business grow, why do it? Mark, I believe you wrote an earlier blog post about followers on twitter not necessarily equaling $$$ and that you're seeing signs of the bubble starting to burst. It really is simple, the point of any business is to make money. If it can’t help the business grow, why do it? Mark, I believe you wrote an earlier blog post about followers on twitter not necessarily equaling $$$ and that you’re seeing signs of the bubble starting to burst.

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]]> By: Gregg Morris http://www.businessesgrow.com/2009/11/24/is-this-the-end-of-the-social-media-purists/#comment-1270 Gregg Morris Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:54:25 +0000 http://businessesgrow.com/?p=1189#comment-1270 We need to cut this post out somehow and pin it up so that the rest of the world can see how two very classy guys take something that might have turned ugly and confrontational and use it for rational discourse on what's right and wrong with "social media" and the practice thereof. We need to cut this post out somehow and pin it up so that the rest of the world can see how two very classy guys take something that might have turned ugly and confrontational and use it for rational discourse on what’s right and wrong with “social media” and the practice thereof.

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]]> By: Mark http://www.businessesgrow.com/2009/11/24/is-this-the-end-of-the-social-media-purists/#comment-1269 Mark Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:59:08 +0000 http://businessesgrow.com/?p=1189#comment-1269 @Jason In the name of balance, if you scroll down to Nov. 13, you'll see I mentioned you in another blog post. In that I wrote: "For my money, Jason Falls is the best social media blogger in the business. He covers it all — technology, business applications, trends and opinion. He’s freaky smart, a superb writer and a fellow WVU grad. What’s not to like?" In the past year I've probably read every post you've written. So there you have it. You are my favorite blogger. From this perspective I also have a pretty good feel for the evolution of your thinking and yes, sometimes I think the perspectives you expressed on the almost altruistic nature of social media were way off the mark from a business perspective. In my social media world, you have been THE MAN and now you're even more of the man. I admire the way you put yourself out there and take on tough topics for us all to consider. Thanks so much for your perspective and your contribution to the community. @Jason In the name of balance, if you scroll down to Nov. 13, you’ll see I mentioned you in another blog post. In that I wrote:

“For my money, Jason Falls is the best social media blogger in the business. He covers it all — technology, business applications, trends and opinion. He’s freaky smart, a superb writer and a fellow WVU grad. What’s not to like?”

In the past year I’ve probably read every post you’ve written. So there you have it. You are my favorite blogger.

From this perspective I also have a pretty good feel for the evolution of your thinking and yes, sometimes I think the perspectives you expressed on the almost altruistic nature of social media were way off the mark from a business perspective.

In my social media world, you have been THE MAN and now you’re even more of the man. I admire the way you put yourself out there and take on tough topics for us all to consider. Thanks so much for your perspective and your contribution to the community.

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]]> By: John Mark Troyer http://www.businessesgrow.com/2009/11/24/is-this-the-end-of-the-social-media-purists/#comment-1268 John Mark Troyer Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:44:58 +0000 http://businessesgrow.com/?p=1189#comment-1268 (Just to be clear, I was speaking about the social media field in general and my personal experiences in particular. I don't know Jason but he was one of the first "social media" blogs I subscribed to.) (Just to be clear, I was speaking about the social media field in general and my personal experiences in particular. I don’t know Jason but he was one of the first “social media” blogs I subscribed to.)

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]]> By: Lisa Foote http://www.businessesgrow.com/2009/11/24/is-this-the-end-of-the-social-media-purists/#comment-1267 Lisa Foote Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:19:20 +0000 http://businessesgrow.com/?p=1189#comment-1267 Jason - I didn't take it that way. I inferr you are an innovator and a leader who is unafraid to learn, grow and evolve. I think most other readers will see you in the same light. Jason – I didn’t take it that way. I inferr you are an innovator and a leader who is unafraid to learn, grow and evolve. I think most other readers will see you in the same light.

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]]> By: Jason Falls http://www.businessesgrow.com/2009/11/24/is-this-the-end-of-the-social-media-purists/#comment-1266 Jason Falls Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:58:13 +0000 http://businessesgrow.com/?p=1189#comment-1266 Wow. You make it sound like until yesterday, I had my head up my ass. Fortunately, the post is but a device to help business people separate the crap from the credible in the social media space. I've been focused on business drivers for a long time. Yeah, I feel like the protector of the principles as well and do think that a primary goal of driving sales can get you caught in a world of mess with social media (if you don't do it right), but I can assure you that three years worth of (mostly) happy clients can assure you I didn't just see the light. But I see what you're saying and can certainly defer to the notion that all the rah-rah about ads suck and sales won't work that many purists spout has to be considered bunk. You either move the needle or you find another job. And I thought that three years ago, too. Thanks for the pretty picture. Heh. Wow. You make it sound like until yesterday, I had my head up my ass. Fortunately, the post is but a device to help business people separate the crap from the credible in the social media space. I’ve been focused on business drivers for a long time. Yeah, I feel like the protector of the principles as well and do think that a primary goal of driving sales can get you caught in a world of mess with social media (if you don’t do it right), but I can assure you that three years worth of (mostly) happy clients can assure you I didn’t just see the light.

But I see what you’re saying and can certainly defer to the notion that all the rah-rah about ads suck and sales won’t work that many purists spout has to be considered bunk. You either move the needle or you find another job. And I thought that three years ago, too.

Thanks for the pretty picture. Heh.

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