Posts tagged klout scores
Happiness, joy and big fat Klout scores
Jul 19th
Back in my 20s I was full of energy and ambition. “Piss and vinegar” we used to say. I was aiming for the next rung on the corporate ladder, getting my MBA, raising a family … and I always seemed tired and stressed.
I had a very special and influential teacher when I was in grad school who was a living Yoda. One time we were sitting around having coffee and I was whining about the increasing anxiety in my workplace.
“It doesn’t have to be that way you know,” my teacher said.
My defensiveness was up. He was just so out of touch if he thought the pace of this world wasn’t stressful!
“Well,” I said, “If you don’t feel anxiety all the time, what DO you feel?” Without hesitation, he stated “joy!”
This opened up one of the most important discussions of my life, a discussion that has influenced me to this moment.
Joy. I had never really stopped to consider that as a goal for my life. I decided I wanted to figure that out.
One of the things I discovered is that there is a difference between happiness and joy. You can be happy about a hamburger. You can be happy about a song. Happiness is temporary. Joy is peace.
Living in a joyful way is a challenge but one key idea is staying focused on the reason for your journey. If you KNOW why you are on your path, then you also have internal guideposts to lead the way. Stay focused on WHY you’re doing something.
But if your life is guided by external guideposts like Twitter followers, blog rankings … and even money … you might experience happiness but you will never experience joy because you will never achieve your goal. There will always be more, more, more to acquire. You won’t experience joy in the journey.
When you become active on the social web, it can be easy to be knocked off center because we are all being constantly measured — publicly. There are so many ways to quantify you, and what you do, and compare it to others. Suddenly the journey is much less important than hitting that next level of Twitter followers or a higher Klout score. And it just never ends.
For the past few weeks I have been immersed in a project that has brought me close to many people who are unquestionably obssessed with their online personas, appearances, and scores.
One guy told me he spent all his spare time tweeting at a high rate just to keep his Klout score up. I told him that it would certainly go down when he goes on vacation. “I can’t stop,” he said. “Even on vacation. There’s too much pressure to keep it up.”
Where is that pressure coming from? Something about the conversation made me sad. All this social media stuff can be fun in its place but should it become a life goal? Nobody is going to list the number of Twitter followers on my tombstone.
It makes me sad that increasingly, these external guideposts seem to be driving our behavior. Shouldn’t it be the other way around?
I read a story where a guy was giving tips on how to cheat at Foursquare. So he’s cheating a system in order to earn an electronic badge to be a fake mayor of a donut shop. And then what? When will he have enough mayorships? Will he ever experience joy?
I want to make sure you know I am not in a position to pontificate. I am a work in progress too. I get knocked off center — at least just a little bit — every day.
For example, this week I was offered a lot of money to begin having “sponsored posts” (aka paid product reviews) on my blog. Wow. Money for blogging? But after checking my internal guideposts I found violating the content on the blog with sponsored content does not support WHY I am blogging. So I declined the offer. Maybe you think I’m an idiot, but I feel peaceful about the decision. I’m on the right path, at least for me.
Are you finding it harder to focus on your internal path when there are these numbers blinking at you, screaming to be optimized for your personal brand? Do you see it differently, or are you experiencing the same concerns as me?
Does +K affect your Klout score? (and other juicy Klout nuggets!)
Jul 10th
I’ve been wondering about this new +K function on Klout — an ability to reward people for their “influence” on certain subjects. In fact I thought the development was somewhat disturbing because it seems to invite people to game the system.
I know a lot of people hate the idea of being rated on Klout but I am sincerely impressed by the way the young company is pursuing a disciplined and rigorous approach to creating a constantly-improving approximation for influence. It’s far from perfect, but I give them props for focusing on the right thing — improving their algorithms by investing millions of dollars in technology and PhD-level resources.
So why in the world would they open themselves up to be gamed with this new +K thing? I am already seeing people ASK to be awarded +K points in hopes of raising their score as they seek valuable new Klout Perks.
Well, as it turns out, the +K designation is fairly meaningless at this point. I asked Klout co-founder Joe Fernandez about this innovation and here is his answer:
“The +K award does not affect your Klout score,” he said. “We put it out for a few reasons – to drive engagement and to help build-out our models around topics.”
Joe compared it to a personal “like” button to reward somebody for a job well done. “If I came to Knoxville and you recommended a restaurant to me and I went there, I should be able to give you a +K to acknowledge that. Or if I’m sitting at a conference and listening to a panel where somebody is making amazing points I never thought of – I should be able to give them a +K and reward them. That’s the idea.”
Joe did not discount the possibility that +K points could play a role in assessing influence. “We would not dismiss the possibility that it might be factored in some day, but the integrity of the score is so important so we would have to take baby steps. When we put the +K feature out, we didn’t even know if anybody would use it or what would happen. We’re analyzing the data now. Everything we look at is user-generated content, no different than a re-Tweet. We have to just be smart as to how we include +K– if it ever gets included at all.”
Here are a couple more Klout score nuggets I learned from Joe:
Influence of multiple platforms –While Klout is only connected to a few social media platforms today, it may be integrated with dozens in the next few months. Being spread thin across these networks does not necessarily help your Klout score. “As far as somebody being on three social networks versus 50, we’re network agnostic,” Joe said. “So if you’re just on Yelp or Twitter or Facebook, you could have a higher score than somebody who has a little influence but on more social networks.”
The factors of influence — Klout’s official blog names 35 different factors being considered when weighing on influence but that list is already climbing as the company learns more about the nature of online influence. “We are constantly adding factors,” Fernandez said. “I’m guessing we’re over 50 now. Our science team of 10 people — that’s their job every day to refine that and make it better. As we moved from Twitter to other networks, we would have these debates internally about is a Facebook Like equivalent to a Twitter RT … sort of like a currency exchange question! We came to the conclusion that all of these networks are different so every network must have its own ground-up influence algorithm. We have another algorithm that combines the scores for you — not generically for everybody. So, if your most effective platform is Facebook, it will take up the bulk of your scoring and everything else is added in. I think the algorithm will be hundreds of data points or thousands at some point. It’s infinite complexity.”
Artificial connections — I asked Joe about the issue I raised on {grow} last week — how people seem to be using a strategy of trying to artificially connect with people with high Klout scores to improve their own scores. He said that gaming the system this way is difficult: “While much of the score is based on how influential the people are that are interacting with you, it would be really hard to manipulate the score unless you get a bunch of people trying to do it at the same time you are. But they would put their audience (and their score) at risk by helping you with that effort. So, we don’t see anything happening like that on a mass scale but we have a whole team monitoring for that sort of thing, including people with past experience at Google who have already lived through that sort of thing!”
Klout has a big challenge ahead — continue to refine its model, manage growth in a smart way (quadrupling its staff this year) and take advantage of monetization opportunities like Klout Perks. But I do sense it’s gaining traction and they have more or less owned the buzz in this space.
What do you think about Klout? Interested? Obssessed? Or a non-event?
Keep your hands off my Klout
Jun 21st
The whole idea of assessing social influence is fascinating to me. Klout and other companies are popping up to reduce people to a single number … which evokes delight in marketers and loathing in those being rated! An evil genius could have a lot of fun with that scenario : )
This trend also taps into people’s sense of competition and it’s easy to be knocked off center when a cat or an inanimate object has a higher Klout score than you. Hey, I admit it – when Klout first came out, yes … I compared my score to other bloggers to see where I stood. I’m competitive, too! I think you have to enjoy competition to be good at business. We just have to keep it in perspective. Today, my score kind of stays the same under most circumstances so it’s not at the top of my hit parade!
But when people start getting obsessed with personal scores and measuring against “the competition,” it may drive the wrong behaviors. In the past month I’ve seen no fewer than six posts with Klout-enhancing strategies to game the system. I could really care less about how other people spend their time, except when it starts to affect me. You see, all these posts include something along the lines of finding ways to troll for people with high Klout scores and trick them into engaging with you. They suggest something like this:
- Research and follow people with high Klout scores.
- Retweet and reply to Tweets from these “influencers,” in an attempt to elicit a response.
- Find ways to support and promote influencers, hoping they will support and promote you.
So I am the perfect target. I have a relatively high Klout score and I engage a lot. But this seems a little creepy to me. Plotting artificial engagement to hike an artificial score? It just seems well, artificial!
I sense that there are people enacting this strategy on me now. I just had somebody follow me called @kloutbait. Hmm … subtle! Of course I can never really know a person’s intent, but I also don’t want to spend my time being part of a plot to game the system.
I believe that increasing your influence in any social environment — offline or online — can be supported in the long-term by following the simple formula that is also at the heart of my book, The Tao of Twitter:
- Surround yourself with meaningful people who have a probability of caring about you and what you do (regardless of their Klout score)
- Provide meaningful content that will naturally create value and act as a catalyst for connection
- Nurture and sustain relationships by being sincerely, authentically helpful to people.
These online scoring systems will come and go. Their algorithms will change constantly. Instead of trying to figure out the system, I think that by consistently following this path, your social score will take care of itself. And more important, personal and business benefits will accrue no matter what your score may be.
Does this make sense? What does this trend toward measuring social influence mean to you?
Klout will introduce detailed new analytics (video)
Mar 13th
I had the fortune of interviewing Klout CEO Joe Fernandez at SXSW and hope you’ll enjoy this short video.
While I only had a few minutes before we were literally being kicked out of the room, Joe discloses plans for a detailed new website. Joe participated in two panels here in Austin and was quite open about the opportunties, and the problems, of his social scoring system. “Can you remember what Google was like in 1997?” he said. “That’s where we are with Klout, that’s the mission we’re on. It’s almost a ridiculous challenge.”
In addition to the short comments I captured on video here, Joe mentioned that Klout has been on a hiring frenzy to keep improving his service. The four prioirities he articulated were:
- Addressing spam and bots
- Focus on better defining influence by topic
- Aligning his service with the goals of brands
- Looking at different languages and countries.
He also mentioned several recent successes with Nike, HP and Clairol. “With Clairol, we targeted users of lip gloss and and found passionate bloggers who loved the product and the brand. Even I was surprised that we could have success with lip gloss.”
He also hinted that the actual Klout score we see publically is just ”the tip of the iceberg” of analytics he is bringing to brand managers.
Joe has been a frequent visitor on {grow} — primarily to address controversy — and acknowledged that when he planned his product offering, the “ego component” was something he had not thought through. ”It’s been interesting to say the least,” he said. “But we keep improving the experience as best we can.”
Hope you enjoy the video. Let me know your thoughts on this latest information from Klout.









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