Using Klout and social scoring for sales and marketing teams
Apr 23rd
One of the things I have been interested in is examining practical applications of Klout and social scoring to an internal enterprise.
If you are unclear about social scoring systems and what they attempt to measure, it might be useful to start with this blog post about Why Klout Matters. Like a credit score, let’s assume that companies like Klout, Kred and Appinions are beginning to measure something that correlates to an individual’s social media effectiveness.
I had an opporunity to test some of these ideas last week when I conducted a social influence workshop with a global services company in the UK.
I began with an overview of the basics behind these systems and what we can really learn from them.
Then, thanks to Andrew Grill, president of Kred, we were able to construct an internal dashboard that approximated the relative social media effectiveness of many company employees. It was nothing short af a revelation to these top executives. Here are a couple of observations:
Who is the real company spokesperson?
One of the executives said, “I don’t know any of these people on this list! You mean they are representing our company?”
Indeed. I told him the story about how one of his IT employees — the person with the second-highest Kred score in the company — connected with me through this blog and on Twitter, and over a period of two years we had become friends. When he found out I was coming to London, he offered to introduce me to the company’s marketing team. That led to organizing the workshop.
“You see,” I said, “to me, this web developer IS the face of your company. The only reason I am here today is because he is representing you so effectively on the social web.”
This was a profound lesson for the executives. They were discovering their most effective representatives on the social web — and it was quite eye-opening. Now they are wondering about: How do we thank them, learn from them, and find ways we can work more closely together? How do we transfer their expertise to other parts of the organization?
Where is marketing?
It was illustrative that 80% of the top influencers where in no way associated with PR, sales, service, or marketing. This was an equally shocking revelation. Shouldn’t these departments be highly visible on the social web, especially in a technology and services-oriented company?
This company prided itself in being on the forefront of technology and best management practices but this simple ranking made them realize they were missing an enormous opportunity to discover gaps with their customer-facing strategies. This led to a lively discussion about further training and how some of the key ideas from Return On Influence could be incorporated into basic sales best practices.
Influencer Outreach
The exercise also started them thinking about using these scores to discover unknown or under-utilized resources at prospect companies, possible partner companies or even as a way to find high-potential new employees. How could they find like-minded and passionate individuals who have a natural interest in their ideas and technologies? They had already observed how it could be used to find a resource like me. The possibilities seemed vast.
It was exciting for me to see some of the core ideas of Return On Influence come alive in this corporate setting and I wanted to pass along some of the experiences to you. Can you see how some of these simple lists can help you and your sales efforts?
Are you ready for Return On Influence?
Jan 3rd
We are on the cusp of a marketing revolution. And it is being led by YOU.
Dozens of companies like Klout are slicing, dicing, and dissecting the billions of bits of information published on social media sites such as Twitter and Facebook each day and grading your ability to create buzz. The most powerful of these new “Citizen Influencers” are rewarded by the world’s biggest brands with trips, merchandise, and luxury cars. Today, anyone can get behind the velvet rope … if you know how!
And while this innovation is producing revolutionary opportunities for influence marketing, it has also resulted in the most divisive and controversial conversation on the web today. As I observed this intersection of business opportunity and personal loathing I thought that somebody should write a book about this.
So I did.
Return On Influence is the first book to explore the new world of Internet power and how brands are identifying and leveraging the most influential bloggers, tweeters, and YouTube celebrities to build product awareness, brand buzz, and new sales. This book is unlike any marketing book you have ever read and features:
- In-depth explanations of the surprising new sources of online influence — and how they can work for or against you!
- Interviews with more than 50 industry experts including tech blogger Robert Scoble, Influence at Work Author Robert Cialdini, Klout CEO Joe Fernandez and Azeem Azhar of PeerIndex.
- Practical, actionable tips to increase your own personal power and online influence.
- Exclusive insider access to Klout, PeerIndex … and their customers.
- A first-ever look at a brand’s view of the Klout data that we can’t access.
- A special foreword by Lee Rainie, Director of Pew Research
- Never-before-seen social influence marketing case studies.
Your Klout score is only the tip of the influence iceberg. Return on Influence blows open the Klout controversies, dives into the underworld of Internet cheating, helps you determine your own online power, and looks deeply into the future of this significant marketing trend.
Important brands like Disney, American Express and Nike are clamoring to master this new marketing channel and reward the new buzz-makers — the Citizen Influencers — with trips, merchandise and exclusive events. Everybody has a voice now and becoming influential no longer requires movie star looks, a degree from Harvard, or political power.
This is OUR time. This is YOUR time.
This is the time of Return on Influence.
My book launches at SXSW in March but is now in pre-sale through Amazon.com at a special introductory price that is 1/3 off the cover price. Anybody who buys the book before March will also receive a special edition 30-page eBook, The Insider’s Guide to Klout, when emailing a proof of purchase to info@ReturnOnInfluence.com.
Over the coming weeks I’ll be passing along additional insights from the book and the story of writing it, which was an adventure all its own! Here’s a new website with a glimpse of the book’s content: www.ReturnOnInfluence.com
If you’ve enjoyed {grow} and connecting with me, please consider buying my book, contributing a review and letting me know what you think about the work. Many thanks!
Klout rants are becoming a cottage industry
Dec 7th
Klout seems to be the blogger’s best friend these days. Is anybody NOT writing about it? What’s driving the frenzy?
Are you really serious about privacy?
The biggest complaint about Klout (recently) is the fact that they have had some privacy breeches, most notably “opting-in minors” who were connected to people who had legitimately participated in Klout. This privacy violation is intolerable.
This is a serious issue, but to all the bloggers who are passionate about privacy, I’d like to ask a question — If you have so much energy around Klout, why aren’t you going absolutely ape-shit about Facebook?
Duiring this same period that the world has been bitching up a storm about Klout, the U.S. government concluded a Congressional investigation over Facebook’s grievous violations, including this one:
Many of the most popular applications, or “apps,” on the social-networking site Facebook Inc. have been transmitting identifying information — in effect, providing access to people’s names and, in some cases, their friends’ names — to dozens of advertising and Internet tracking companies. The issue affects tens of millions of Facebook app users, including people who set their profiles to Facebook’s strictest privacy settings. (Wall Street Journal)
Now, because of these arrogant, chronic, and brazen violations that probably affect every one of us, the federal government slapped a much-needed penalty on Facebook that includes 20 years of privacy auditing. And yet, I have not seen one single blog post from the Klout detractors about the most serious privacy issue of our generation. Not one post.
Are you serious about privacy? Then do something about it that matters. Let’s have some original thinking on the matter instead of another dozen Klout tantrums.
Klout by the numbers
In the big scheme of the social web, Klout is trivial. I teach university classes to dozens of business professionals every week and less than 10 percent of them have heard of Klout. So why would some bloggers devote 4, 5, even 6 blog posts in a month about an obscure company like this?
I think one reason is because Klout CEO Joe Fernandez often personally responds to critics, a noble gesture that also feeds blogger egos and probably encourages more criticism. I don’t think any blogger expects to hear from Zuckerberg, right?
And here’s another clue to the Klout blog frenzy. The chart below illustrates the average number of tweets I received on Klout-related blog posts compared to the last 25 non-Klout-related blog posts (not including growtoons):
Klout drives traffic like no other subject on the blogosphere. And I’m not the only one seeing this phenomenon. A blogger friend said his three biggest blog posts of 2011 were about Klout. I’m not claiming anybody in particular is using the topic as linkbait. I’m just saying a critical thinker might consider the fact that doubling one’s blog traffic might just impact a blogger’s decision to harp on this comparatively obscure issue. It is fair to call attention to a problem. It is wearisome to make a career out of it.
And, you may be missing the point.
Many people claim Klout is silly and meaningless. And, there are many funny anecdotes that support this point of view. However, I articulated a counter-opinion to this in a post called “Why Klout Matters” and I won’t repeat the argument here. But I will let you in on a secret …
While doing research for my new book, I interviewed many of Klout’s customers. The people in the marketing trenches told me that not only is the data they receive from Klout meaningful, it’s revolutionary in ways that will surprise you. These case studies will be available soon, but the democratization of influence is undeniably becoming a mainstream marketing option.
Klout has made some very big PR missteps. They are iterating a start-up venture in real-time, in public … and that’s kind of like grinding out sausage in the middle of a busy street. Pretty ugly. But they’re also improving and making legitimate business advances:
- They’ve attracted business (and repeat business) from some of the most important brands on the planet like Nike, Disney, Audi and American Express.
- Based on some spectacular success, one television network is integrating Klout influencers into nearly every program marketing effort.
- A fresh round of investment just came in from the most powerful venture capitalists in Silicon Valley.
- Salesforce.com announced it was wiring Klout into its market-leading CRM software to support sales and service decision-making.
- Christopher S. Penn, one of the intellects I most admire on the social web, authored a cautionary view about opting out of Klout because of its increasingly mainstream applications. A must read.
- Advertising Age named Klout as one of the most important digital trends of the year.
There seems to be some momentum building here, no?
Everybody has the right to say and do whatever they want on the social web. But in my opinion, social scoring is here to stay and it’s time to move the conversation along. I’m hopeful that we can start seeing fresher and broader debate, especially on the essential topic of Internet privacy.
Dear social web, Let’s try keeping it real.
Oct 27th
I hesitate to be drawn into the Klout firing line again but I have had so many requests from the {grow} community to comment on the Klout Meltdown this week that I guess I need to respond. At the risk of adding to Klout weariness, here are a few observations.
- My Klout score dropped from 82 to 64. Who cares? My wife and kids still love me.
- Klout’s biggest competitor is PeerIndex. My score on PeerIndex is 64. Funny. They’re the same level now.
- Nobody complained that their PeerIndex score was too low.
- My friend Elizabeth Reusswig remarked that “60 is the new 80.” It’s true. As I looked at how this affected others, my RELATIVE influence stayed about the same.
- Here is the big idea most people miss about Klout. In the long run, Klout doesn’t give a damn if you’re happy with your Klout score or not. You’re not their customer. As long as they deliver the goods to brands we can go ahead and howl all we want.
- I admire Klout CEO Joe Fernandez but he created a hole for himself by announcing that the new changes would affect most people’s scores very little. If he just would have said most scores will drop for a re-set in the name of accuracy, it would have gone down a lot better.
- Recently Blogger Danny Brown ran some really concerning stuff about Klout and privacy. I agree with him. Klout has got to get on top of that or they’re going to jeopardize their success.
- Some people said that this drop in scores “proves that Klout is on the way out.” Ha! That made me chuckle. This week, Klout received another $30 mm in funding and is already valued at $200 mm. Ummm, no, they are not on their way out.
- Klout is kicking ass. They are getting tens of billions of hits to their API every month. PeerIndex just hit 100 million hits. Klout is that far ahead.
- Disney, American Express, EA Sports and other well-known brands are lined up for Klout programs. Klout said they are nearly “sold out” on Perks for December. You may think Klout is dumb, but these companies don’t. Pay attention.
- Another thing that makes me laugh … people are “heart-broken” because they put so much work into their Klout score only to see it drop. Are these the same people who are incensed when they work so hard to be the Foursquare mayor at Dunkin’ Donuts and get replaced? C’mon folks let’s get real. Go make something. Go sell something.
- I saw another big line of complaints from people who were afraid a score drop would jeopardize their job prospects. When I wrote about Klout and employment opportunities a few months ago, people thought I was making it up. Apparently some companies believe it is a sign that you are adept at using the social web. Or, it might be a sign you have too much time on your hands. Either way, it’s going mainstream.
Here is the big take-away for me over this brouhaha. Accomplishment doesn’t matter on the social web. Social proof in the way of Twitter followers or a Klout score matter more than success on your job or the great charities you support. It’s painful to acknowledge that, but it’s true. That’s the real reason people are so upset. Klout scores DO MATTER. In an information-dense society, it is an easy short-cut to determine worth.
I cover this phenomenon quite a bit in my upcoming book (There! A Tease! Power on the social web. Hmmm … wouldn’t that make a fascinating book?).
People are literally crying over a fake numeric Internet badge. Yes my friends, we are living in a very, very weird world.
Create and curate great content. Nurture a network of people who care about you. Be kind. The influence will take care of itself.
Now I am going to go play tennis with my wife.










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